Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

05/11/2022 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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02:45:44 PM Start
02:46:20 PM SB182
02:56:49 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 2:30 pm --
+= SB 182 INTERFERENCE WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 182(STA) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                          May 11, 2022                                                                                          
                           2:45 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Matt Claman, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Liz Snyder, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
Representative David Eastman                                                                                                    
Representative Christopher Kurka                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 182(JUD)                                                                                                 
"An Act establishing the crime of interference with emergency                                                                   
communications."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HCS CSSB 182(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 182                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: INTERFERENCE WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) WILSON                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
02/08/22       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/08/22       (S)       JUD                                                                                                    
02/16/22       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/16/22       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
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02/25/22       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/25/22       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
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02/28/22       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/28/22       (S)       <Bill Hearing Rescheduled to 03/02/22>                                                                 
03/02/22       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/02/22       (S)       Moved CSSB 182(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/02/22       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/04/22       (S)       JUD RPT CS  3DP 2NR   SAME TITLE                                                                       
03/04/22       (S)       DP: HOLLAND, MYERS, HUGHES                                                                             
03/04/22       (S)       NR: SHOWER, KIEHL                                                                                      
03/04/22       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/04/22       (S)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
03/09/22       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
03/09/22       (S)       VERSION: CSSB 182(JUD)                                                                                 
03/14/22       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/14/22       (H)       STA, JUD                                                                                               
04/12/22       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
04/12/22       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/12/22       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
04/16/22       (H)       STA AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
04/16/22       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/16/22       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
05/05/22       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
05/05/22       (H)       Moved   HCS   CSSB   182(STA)   Out   of                                                               
                         Committee                                                                                              
05/05/22       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
05/09/22       (H)       STA RPT HCS(STA) 2DP 1DNP 2NR                                                                          
05/09/22       (H)       DP: VANCE, CLAMAN                                                                                      
05/09/22       (H)       DNP: EASTMAN                                                                                           
05/09/22       (H)       NR: STORY, TARR                                                                                        
05/09/22       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
05/09/22       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
05/09/22       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
05/11/22       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:45:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MATT  CLAMAN called the House  Judiciary Standing Committee                                                             
meeting  to  order  at  2:45   p.m.    Representatives  Drummond,                                                               
Eastman,  and  Claman   were  present  at  the   call  to  order.                                                               
Representatives Kreiss-Tomkins, Kurka, and  Snyder arrived as the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          SB 182-INTERFERENCE WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:46:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
CS FOR SENATE  BILL NO. 182(JUD), "An Act  establishing the crime                                                               
of  interference with  emergency  communications."   [Before  the                                                               
committee was HCS CSSB 182(STA).]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  gave Legislative Legal Services  permission to make                                                               
technical and conforming changes to the  bill.  He noted that the                                                               
forthcoming amendments  were drafted to Version  O [CSSB 182(JUD)                                                               
instead of  Version N [HCS  CSSB 182(STA)], which was  before the                                                               
committee.  He said in a  rare exception, the amendments would be                                                               
allowed, as they track the current version of the bill.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:47:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  moved to  adopt Amendment  1 to  HCS CSSB
182(STA), labeled, 32-LS1103\O.6, Radford, 5/3/22 which read:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIR CLAMAN objected.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:47:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN stated  that  Amendment  1 would  clarify                                                               
that when  a person intends to  cause a disruption in  service by                                                               
interfering   with,  blocking,   or   otherwise  disrupting   the                                                               
emergency  communication by  telephone,  phone,  radio, or  other                                                               
electronic means, this person would  be charged with the crime of                                                               
interference with emergency services.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN maintained his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:49:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives Kurka  and Eastman                                                               
voted  in  favor  of  Amendment  1.    Representatives  Drummond,                                                               
Snyder,  and Claman  voted against  it.   Therefore, Amendment  1                                                               
failed by a vote of 2-3.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:49:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  moved to  adopt Amendment  2 to  HCS CSSB
182(STA), labeled, 32-LS1103\O.7, Radford, 5/3/22, which read:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIR CLAMAN objected.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:49:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  opined  that  "emergency  communications                                                               
center" was  too broadly  defined in the  current version  of the                                                               
bill.  He  stated that Amendment 2 would limit  the definition to                                                               
a center  which is involved in  the dispatch of police,  fire, or                                                               
medical personnel, or  involved in the transfer or  exchange of a                                                               
request  for  emergency  assistance and  other  information  with                                                               
other centers and emergency response providers.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:50:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN maintained his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:50:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives Kurka  and Eastman                                                               
voted  in  favor  of  Amendment  2.    Representatives  Drummond,                                                               
Snyder,  and Claman  voted against  it.   Therefore, Amendment  2                                                               
failed by a vote of 2-3.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:51:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN sought final comment from committee members.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:52:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  shared his belief  that the new  crime of                                                               
interference  with  emergency   communications  was  defined  too                                                               
broadly in the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SNYDER  thanked the bill sponsor  for a reasonable                                                               
response to unreasonable uses of emergency resources.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:56:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SNYDER  moved to report  HCS CSSB 182(STA)  out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.   There being  no objection, HCS CSSB  182(STA) was                                                               
reported from the House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:56:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:56 p.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 182 v. N 5.9.2022.PDF HJUD 5/9/2022 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 5/11/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 182
SB 182 Sponsor Statement 2.8.2022.pdf HJUD 5/9/2022 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 5/11/2022 1:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/12/2022 3:00:00 PM
SB 182
SB 182 Sectional Analysis v. N 5.9.2022.pdf HJUD 5/9/2022 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 5/11/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 182
SB 182 Summary of Changes v. O to v. N 5.9.2022.pdf HJUD 5/9/2022 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 5/11/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 182
SB 182 Supporting Document - Letters Received as of 3.23.2022.pdf HJUD 5/9/2022 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 5/11/2022 1:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/12/2022 3:00:00 PM
SB 182
SB 182 Fiscal Note LAW-CRIM 2.11.2022.pdf HJUD 5/9/2022 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 5/11/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 182
SB 182 Amendments #1-2 HJUD 5.11.2022.pdf HJUD 5/11/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 182
SB 182 Amendments #1-2 HJUD Final Votes 5.11.2022.pdf HJUD 5/11/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 182